Tuesday, December 4, 2018

Love the One You're With

Neanderthals and Humans Were Hooking Up Way More Than Anyone Thought
Way more sex happened between Neanderthals and the ancestors of modern humans across Europe and Asia than scientists originally thought, a new study finds.

Scientists initially thought that interbreeding among the two groups was more isolated to a particular place and time — specifically, when they encountered each other in western Eurasia shortly after modern humans left Africa. This idea stemmed from the fact that the genomes of modern humans from outside Africa are only about 2 percent Neanderthal, on average.

Subsequent research, however, has found that Neanderthal ancestry is 12 to 20 percent higher in modern East Asians compared to modern Europeans.

"There's been a lot of debate as to why East Asians seem to have a bit more Neanderthal ancestry than Europeans," said senior study author Joshua Schraiber, a population geneticist at Temple University in Philadelphia. "There've been two competing ideas. One is that East Asians happen to interbreed more with Neanderthals. The other is that, of the multiple ancestral populations of Europeans, one had very little Neanderthal ancestry, diluting the [overall] Neanderthal contribution."


To shed light on this question of interbreeding, scientists developed computer simulations that modeled how DNA would get shared during a range of numbers of encounters between modern humans and Neanderthals. Then, they looked into which models best fit modern human genetic databases.

The researchers suggested the patterns of Neanderthal DNA inheritance seen in modern humans are best explained by not one, but multiple, independent episodes of interbreeding between Neanderthal and modern humans, first and foremost in the Middle East, but also later in both Europe and East Asia. The dilutive effect likely also played some role in why there is less Neanderthal ancestry in modern Europeans than in modern East Asians, Schraiber told Live Science. In other words, both multiple interbreeding episodes and dilutive effects might have occurred, contrary to what was previously thought.
Until proven otherwise, I assume Denisovan women
were all hotties...
An ex-sailor told me that sailors would f*ck a snake if they could...
This scenario of multiple episodes of interbreeding between modern humans and Neanderthals fits in with the emerging view that various human lineages had complex and frequent interactions. For example, recent work found the mysterious human lineage known as the Denisovans apparently contributed to the modern human gene pool at least twice, leaving behind two distinct genetic component — one mostly in Papuan and Australian aboriginal populations, the other primarily in East Asian populations.
I would suspect that on the ground back in the depths of the last glaciation, people of all types, Neandertal, Densisovan as well as "anatomically modern humans" were sufficiently rare due to lack of resources, that mates outside the family group, to avoid the bad genetic consequences of inbreeding were hard to come by, and thus were either fought for, or traded for. (Sorry girls, but that's kind of the way things tended to be until dreaded civilization).

I would question the sex of the individual inbreeding Neandertals. It is my opinion that most of the cases of transfers between AMHs and Neandertals and Denisovans involved the transfer of a Neandertal or Denisovan woman to a human group, either through capture, or trade, much more rarely a Neandertal or Denisovan man was moved to human society, and integrated well enough to leave children whose genes would be incorporated into the human population from which we all derive. I wonder if the genetics of our fractions of Neandertal or Denisovan genes shows any influence from their Y chromosomes.

As for the yuck factor objection to the idea of inter-subspecies mating, just remember, The horrifying story of a prostitute orangutan named Pony who was chained to a bed, shaved daily and forced to perform sex acts on men twice her size



Wombat-socho has Rule 5 Sunday: Babe In Toyland out on time at The Other McCain (shouldn't that be the remaining McCain?).

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